Calvin Pryor's Future

Pryor has below average coverage skills so far and if he's trying to tackle latterly or in pursuit he seems very meh. I think we can mostly agree that he's been mediocre at best. Hence the "cut him!" discussions...

But, he's still a big powerful guy who can put some licks on guys if he takes the right angle and get's some momentum going forward. When he makes a solid tackle it's one of the hardest hitting we've seen. I think even with how much he was beaten last year, the opponent is still aware that he's out there... They've just been few and far between.

The assumption right now is that Pryor is gone as we drafted Adams and Maye... But I don't think that's a guarantee at all. I think Pryor can still be deployed in the middle of the field and asked to only man the field in front of him in more of a zone. I think he could still be used to blitz, while Adams and/or Maye play the coverage... It's something you can do with depth at the position. This new type of a role would certainly not be all you want out of a 1st round pick, but if he can find a spot on the team that revolves around hitting guys over the middle and blitzing, that would be pretty good! I don't know the money/cap pieces of the puzzle which I'm sure will factor in, but I think there's still a place for him on this team if they deploy him right.

So we'll see what happens, but I don't think he's an auto-cut right now... (Which means he'll be cut tomorrow).

 

that gif is stange to look at. what kind of busted up pick was that by Dolphins 84 who's falling to the ground. Also, Tannehill sucks.

I have never had a moment when I said..Wow he is a player

3 minutes ago, sciond said:

I have never had a moment when I said..Wow he is a player

I'm not sure that's fair. OP has a point and if Pryor was a 3rd round pick nobody would be giving him half the sh*t. He's made a few plays and definitely has some obv skill. Won't hold my breathe though and won't be surprised if he's not on the roster to start the season. I do think, he not THAT bad and would easily make somebody's team as solid depth if nothing else

1 minute ago, sciond said:

I have never had a moment when I said..Wow he is a player

Ya I mean, the day of him being worth a 1st rounder are way over... This is just more about hoping he can maybe become sort of a specialist. Again, not ideal, but he's on the roster and has one outstanding "skill", which is leveling people.

It would be a win if he can develop into a useful piece out there, even if it's just playing a sort of zone-ish area of the middle of the field, and occasionally blitzing. I guess I think that could be helpful.

2 minutes ago, HessStation said:

I'm not sure that's fair. OP has a point and if Pryor was a 3rd round pick nobody would be giving him half the sh*t. He's made a few plays and definitely has some obv. Won't hold my breathe though and won't be surprised if he's not on the roster to start the season. I do think, he not THAT bad and would easily make somebodies team as solid depth. 

I have watched every game. Everybody makes a play sometimes when on the field.  However I can't recall a wow moment. Certainly has not lived up to the Louisville Slugger nickname.

1 minute ago, sciond said:

I have watched every game. Everybody makes a play sometimes when on the field.  However I can't recall a wow moment. Certainly has not lived up to the Louisville Slugger nickname.

ok, it's probably fair. Pending how you judge a wow play. I think I remember this one time though. 

"If he takes the right angle"

 

 

6 minutes ago, Vader said:

"If he takes the right angle"

 

 

..Yes.

He's gone, will play out his rookie contract, they tried to move him I feel, but no takers.

Hated the pick when Idzik took him. Hated him more and more ever since he dropped a sure pick 6 gift wrapped to him be derek carr in his debut during the season opener of '14. 

It's only gotten worse.

I just read the attached article over at PFT (Pro Football Talk)  Marcus Smith the DE/Edge rusher drafted the same year as Pryor, they are not picking up the 5th year option and may not make the team after picking up Chris Long.  If the Jets are looking to part ways with Pryor what about a straight up trade.  Both are underwhelming first round picks for their respective teams that might just need a fresh start and fills a need for both teams:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/05/01/report-eagles-wont-exercise-marcus-smiths-2018-option/

that gif is stange to look at. what kind of busted up pick was that by Dolphins 84 who's falling to the ground. Also, Tannehill sucks.

I think Tannehill was trying to lead the receiver away from coverage and getting blown up by Pryor.

On second thought, Tannehill sucks lol

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5 hours ago, BurnleyJet said:

He's gone, will play out his rookie contract, they tried to move him I feel, but no takers.

This.

They won't pick up his option, but they might as well get some use out of him on specials and as depth for this season. His salary is fully guaranteed, so cutting him makes little sense. They'll get what they can out of him, then hope he's played well enough to net them a comp pick. 

Please do NOT defend this clown. He's a bust. He's not a good football player. It's pretty damn simple. 

7 minutes ago, slats said:

This.

They won't pick up his option, but they might as well get some use out of him on specials and as depth for this season. His salary is fully guaranteed, so cutting him makes little sense. They'll get what they can out of him, then hope he's played well enough to net them a comp pick. 

Sad Idzik was hooked on Geno, or we could have had Carr. Hopefully the new Safties will be a major upgrade (I think they will). Another Idzik bust. 

7 hours ago, sciond said:

I have watched every game. Everybody makes a play sometimes when on the field.  However I can't recall a wow moment. Certainly has not lived up to the Louisville Slugger nickname.

I'm sure our current QB (McCown) would feel otherwise.  

2 hours ago, slats said:

This.

They won't pick up his option, but they might as well get some use out of him on specials and as depth for this season. His salary is fully guaranteed, so cutting him makes little sense. They'll get what they can out of him, then hope he's played well enough to net them a comp pick. 

That seems like the best plan to me too.

1 hour ago, Ghost said:

Please do NOT defend this clown. He's a bust. He's not a good football player. It's pretty damn simple. 

Definitely not trying to defend him... He's been bad... This was more about trying to figure out if there's a more limited role he can play at this point that could still help a little. And I'm just hoping that if they ask him to do less pass coverage and more patrolling the middle of the field and blitzing, he might at least be a depth piece for a bit. 

Being reported jets are not picking up his 5th year option.

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2 hours ago, slats said:

This.

They won't pick up his option, but they might as well get some use out of him on specials and as depth for this season. His salary is fully guaranteed, so cutting him makes little sense. They'll get what they can out of him, then hope he's played well enough to net them a comp pick. 

Yes.   He is a comp pick/depth play.  Jets should take a 2018 5th or better if they can.  

Can somebody grab the gif of a receiver (I forget who) making Calvin trip over his feet on a post pattern for a TD?

2 hours ago, BurnleyJet said:

Sad Idzik was hooked on Geno, or we could have had Carr. Hopefully the new Safties will be a major upgrade (I think they will). Another Idzik bust. 

Carr was drafted a year later??

11 minutes ago, BigRy56 said:

Can somebody grab the gif of a receiver (I forget who) making Calvin trip over his feet on a post pattern for a TD?

That was a no-name wr for the Seahawks. Pryor just fell down in the middle of the field.

9 hours ago, sciond said:

I have never had a moment when I said..Wow he is a player

From day one of his drafting, all we heard was non-stop fawning over what a hitter Pryor was.  But nothing about if the friggin' guy could cover worth a damn.  As we found out in a hurry, he was always lost in coverages.    Hard to hit an opponent when they're five yards past you heading for pay dirt. 

Jets didn't pick up his option.

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9 hours ago, HessStation said:

I'm not sure that's fair. OP has a point and if Pryor was a 3rd round pick nobody would be giving him half the sh*t. He's made a few plays and definitely has some obv skill. Won't hold my breathe though and won't be surprised if he's not on the roster to start the season. I do think, he not THAT bad and would easily make somebody's team as solid depth if nothing else

Well his salary is only $1.5m, though it is fully guaranteed (so there'd be no conditional "if he makes the opening day roster" clause that carries much weight). Better to just trade him now. I'd hate to stay away from 2018 UFAs out of concern we might cancel out a 6th round compensatory pick (indistinguishable from a high 7th round pick) in 2019.

I don't know what other teams would be willing to cough up for him with 1 year left on his rookie deal, cheap money or not. I wouldn't expect much, after so many safeties just got drafted, but maybe there's some contender that's desperate enough from a spring/summer injury (or their rookie SS looks like trash so far).

there you go...

validation of suck...

2 hours ago, Barkus said:

That was a no-name wr for the Seahawks. Pryor just fell down in the middle of the field.

That's my favorite play of his

3 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said:

Well his salary is only $1.5m, though it is fully guaranteed (so there'd be no conditional "if he makes the opening day roster" clause that carries much weight). Better to just trade him now. I'd hate to stay away from 2018 UFAs out of concern we might cancel out a 6th round compensatory pick (indistinguishable from a high 7th round pick) in 2019.

I don't know what other teams would be willing to cough up for him with 1 year left on his rookie deal, cheap money or not. I wouldn't expect much, after so many safeties just got drafted, but maybe there's some contender that's desperate enough from a spring/summer injury (or their rookie SS looks like trash so far).

it's surprising Pryor doesn't have one sack in his 3 year career. He hasn't really played in the box, at the LOS or really blitzed that much. Really been more of a deep half safety. Those weren't/aren't suppose to be his strengths. What I'm getting at is maybe a team FO would consider his value from only 3 years ago, looking at him as a guy playing in the wrong scheme, bc granted a new HC came in after year 1, and believe they could utilize him better. He is an experienced NFL starter, to your point cheap, talented yet underachieving in current system. You'd think there might be a team looking for the box safety who really liked him predraft and think they can still mold him. A 1 yr 1.5MM flyer for 6th or 7th round pick actually doesn't sound too bad for said team to give up.