let's create a country then.

Scope creep.

2 letters are reserved for ISO-3166 list.
http://www.iso.org/iso/fr/list-en1-semic-3.txt

JS doesn't exist.

2.12 Can a New gTLD name be 2 letters?

Applied-for gTLD strings in ASCII must be composed of three or more visually distinct characters. Two-character ASCII strings are not permitted, to avoid conflicting with current and future country-codes based on the ISO 3166-1 standard.

http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/customer-service/faqs/faqs-en

Some ideas:

• .code
• .dev - Hacker tested, TJ approved
• .javascript (too long)
• .jsz (kind of like compressed JavaScript)
• .foo
• .bar
  *.get so https://example.get/example.js
• .hak - JS Hacker's paradise
• .let - JS keyword as well as common suffix
• .var, .try - too nerdy?
• .app
• .json - to curmudgeon?
• .hub
• .rad
• .jslib

Via Todd Barnard .code and a link I've added to the description.

New materials :
http://archive.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/three-character-30may09-en.pdf
http://archive.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/idn-3-char-requirement-15feb10-en.pdf

It is decided then, we must create a new country (or invade poland, @mmalecki lives there)

I think @visionmedia uses .dev in /etc/hosts so that's a no-go

BRING IT ON TOO TALL

Edited Comment 4 with some 3 char TLDs....

Also

• .wut
• .yak
• .yar - For the pirates, yo
• .yes

.src - View Source has a Posse

.src is rather sweet

Maybe we can ask The Principality of Sealand to hook us up? They take donations. http://www.sealandgov.org/
Note: they aren't formally recognized as country by any other country, but maybe ICANN could let it slide?

p.s. I'm joking - mostly. :-p

Updates:

1. Mozilla leadership is really excited about a .js TLD, so if this could ever happen, they seem like the first organization we might be able to trick into running the registry aspect.

I was ignorant of @voodootikigod and many of your attempts at working on these ideas already. <3

2. We've gotten confirmation that .js won't be eligible for the new gTLD processes, so a kickstarter wouldn't be a good idea.

3. The js TLD is non delegated. Filed Issue .js is a non delegated domain #23.

So these two bugs seem like blockers :( We'll need a creative, new solution or to work on the bureaucratic aspects of Issue #23.

I've closed down signing and updated the README. We know there is a lot of energy, we just need a viable strategy to move this forward.

.proj .pkg .ecma

.wat :)

.src would make sense when combined with 2nd level doman like
.js.src

@TEHEK, I'm pretty sure that those follow the same 2 letter rules.

There are rules for that kind of stuff, you can look them up at ICANN. Application is also pretty much closed, and you will most definitely not make it into the screening process either way, much less through it.

(edit) Just to make it clear, the application window closed on April 12...

(another edit) read all about it first: http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/agb

what about ?

.api
.lib
.web
.script

Surely someone at Mozilla can get some ICANN love going - we really do need more TLDs for code.

@chrisabrams good call, both @lloyd and I are at Mozilla.

This project was started as a personal side-project, but Mozilla Foundation is very supportive and (we found out) had already worked on the idea with others at JS conferences.

nobody here knows anyone at ICANN?

maybe call in the big guns: @BrendanEich you know anyone over there?

That's very exciting to hear @ozten and @lloyd. I'm happy to make blog posts, videos, power points, write code, or whatever it takes to help make this happen.

.coffee

serious question guys: does LegalZoom offer a "register your own country" option?

Why on earth does there need to be a TLD for a programming language.

Guys, guys.. What if you think outside the box? What if you... Think Different™?

It's probably easier to change the .js extension globally (browsers, web servers, projects, etc.) than to "start" a new country.

Aside from that, trying to convince ICANN to make an exception / find a 3+ letter domain is probably an option as well.

@daknob so you basically suggest a dark web for web developers? Hmm, sounds interesting, I'm curious how that would work out... 😄

@Boldewyn Well, what I suggest is %/\.js/\.javascript/g (or something). Rename every JavaScript file to another extension, then use the money to get that gTLD and convince browsers / other devs / projects to use the new extension for JavaScript files, instead of the .js one.

Ah, ok. Got it.

Dark magic?

It's easy... let's develop a browser which handles the .js TLD...

@michaelzoidl I think you meant let's make our own DNS server, right?

Sure, _why did this a decade ago. Go for it!

But it isn't a solution to this blocker. Anyone, without installing any special software or configurations should be able to resolve a .js domain.

Why isn't this closed already? It won't happen, afaik.

bump

TL;DR; We should pair with google, opennicproject.org, cloudflare, and other dns to make our own tld. This way we can get our lovely .api, .js, or .etc We don't need icann.

I know this post has been out there for a while, but as developers, we really should join up with groups like opennicproject.org and create our own tld. ICANN is corrupt and they allow for new tlds to charge with no cap. If it wasn't for the US government stepping in, verisign would have the .com registration to be around $10. This would just be the verisign fee.

Have you ever wondered about the cost of a domain name?
ICANN: $0.18 (Flat)
Verisign -- the .com registry: $7.85 (Capped by US gov)
3% credit card processing fee: $0.30+
Your registrar: $1.67+

So why does verisign want to increase prices? So they can keep the same net revenue. What's funny? Their maintenance cost are low as they require their partner registrars to host copies of their registrar on their systems.

So you pour out your hard work on a cake api. You want cake.api, but because of ICANN's flimsy rules and high requirements to manage and maintain a tld, it's the stupid rules requiring expensive insurance and $70k in liquid cash, with $4k application fee. <--- Say what?!

You end up realizing that cake.api cost $1000 USD because it has no price caps, because the new registrar wants to make their investment back, because its a 4 letter domain.

So you put a donation button on your github, and your api is popular, and you raise the money to learn that some Chinese investor purchased the domain and is doing nothing with it except to resale it back to you for $100k, it sounds ridicules, but this actually does happen. Just google about the investors who believe they have a billion dollar net worth domain name portfolio. Or talk to godaddy support and wait for the support team to offer a $300k domain to you to see if you bite.

It's a sick reality and really we should be proactively do something about this crisis. Lets say, you really wanted cake.api, raised 100k+ to hire lawyers, translators, and to purchase the domain, to find out that cakes.com purchased cake.api so that it would just point to cakes.com. At that point, you're donzo washington and have to go back to your firepit to listen to the voice of Morgan Freeman to calm yourself down and give you new encouragement with your 100k raised.

But hey, if you want to take the easy path out and change your api name to someuntastyfood.api, then be a pushover.

So what if icann wants to sell our tld? Well, lets register several business. Get one in the US, and some in other countries. We can just sue them when they attempt to take our property. Icann does not own the web. We can users do. Worried about funds? Lets just let users know upfront that we have a legal fee to protect their domain. We can have our own light weight rules such as: No up/reselling domains, Domain must be in use, and in the case of .api, domain must have an api. These aren't fixed rules, these are just examples.

A lot of this post may sound like a rant, but just following the money, there is a huge monopoly that is not in our interest. I remember when a tld was suppose to have a purpose, .com was to be commerical, however, its more than just that. Its really an .anything domain.

so, to sum it up:

I know this post has been out there for a while ...
A lot of this post may sound like a rant ...

I guess this TLD ain't gonna happen so that maybe, unless it does or there is some concrete news about it, people could stop necrobumping this issue?

Thank You!

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@JemiloII
It is not as simple as that. First of all, what makes you think Google will side with you on this just so you can have your own .js domain name about a project you made? Also, even if they do, will all the ISPs who operate name servers?
Second of all, operating the .com root zone does not come cheap. It is not a $5 VM on Digital Ocean that runs bind. Do you know how many servers there are, in how many locations, and how many people working 24/7 behind this? Do you know how much this costs?
Finally, what makes you think ICANN is bad and that we should bypass them because domains belong to the users? Can I, in a similar manner, advertise any IP Range I want, bypassing IANA, because IP Addresses are a public resource so they belong to me, too? These organizations have been created to avoid chaos and they may not be perfect, but by limiting users a little bit, provide so much more.

@dodekeract I know it sounded rude and I wrote in a rush but try to imagine I subscribed because I'm interested like anyone else in here but the amount of notifications about GIFs, bumps, rants, and everything else that won't help, reached kinda the highest peak, IMO ... so no, I want to be notified and I hope daily that next time it will be for some concrete news about this proposal.

Best Regards

+1 for .src and/or .script.

What about .gnu, .copyleft, or .ccl (creative commons license)?

btw - I couldn't find anything that says that a 2 letter second level domain was not allowed, so .js.src should work....

@JohnnyCache42 Thats what JS.ORG does.

http://js.co.de/ is still available for 12 Euro ;-) #loljk

@daniellmb looks like a scam site though source

@ozten I liked the idea of .dev - Developers friendly and generic enough to satisfy everyone's needs!

@aamironline Also works as a dev(ice) domain for internet of things stuff.

What about .es6? Gets around the 2 character problem, unfortunately .es7 makes it obsolete unless we pull the html5 stunt and just decide we don't need versions after 5

Why cant we create a virtual countrt for all devs which has the code js?

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Use OpenNIC and New Nations.
https://www.opennic.org/
http://new-nations.net/en/

Some other options to consider:

• General JavaScript: .undefinedisnotafunction
• Node-specific: .eventedioforv8javascript (anyone still remembers?)
• Frontend-specific: .windowdocumentgetelementsbyclassname or .$

if it has to have 3 letters, what about ".jsc"?