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Who Still Has A Chance To Win FPL This Season?

With over three million participants, most of us are realistic enough to appreciate our chances of winning FPL are extremely slim at the outset of the season. With only ten Gameweeks to go, I’d expect the potential pool of winners to have dramatically reduced. I’m happy with my current ranking of about 3,000 but know I have no chance of the overall win. But how high do you need to be to still be in with a chance?

In this article I look at how overall rankings and points deficits have fluctuated over the season for the current top 20 in the overall rankings (as of Gameweek 28).  I’ve also added in my team’s performance and seven other well-known contributors and posters on FFScout for comparison. I then use this information to estimate how big a deficit someone could plausibly make up by the end of the season.

Analysis of overall rankings

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The graph shows overall ranking plotted against Gameweek.  Some points of interest to note from this:

  • None of the current top 20 were within the top 20 in the first seven Gameweeks.
  • Gameweek 8 was the decisive point of the season to date. Only one person in the current top 20 (rank 17) didn’t get a big boost in their ranking that week. Most jumped into the top 10,000 and haven’t dropped out since then.
  • Ten Gameweeks ago (Gameweek 18), all the current top 20 were within the overall top 1,000 and most were in the top 200 by then.
  • The top 20 has stayed pretty stable for the last few Gameweeks.
  • The performance of the world number 17 gives a crumb of hope for the rest of us. As recently as Gameweek 15 I was ranked above them – when personally I believed the deficit to the top 20 was insurmountable.
  • Looking further down the rankings, Ruth_NZ showed that by ignoring the Aguero and Sanchez post-injury bandwagons it was possible to jump from 100k to 10k in just seven Gameweeks.

Analysis of points deficit

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But rankings only tell us part of the story. The game is all about points. The second graph shows the weekly points deficit between each team and the highest total points score at that time (from the teams shown here). This graph shows that:

  • The current world number 1 has been within 54 points of the top throughout the season. He reached the summit by making up 40 points in three Gameweeks (21-23).
  • The biggest deficit to the top of any of the top 20 was 135 points for rank 17 in Gameweek 15. Since then they have closed the deficit by 84 points.
  • Going back ten Gameweeks to Gameweek 18, several teams had a deficit to the world number one of about 100 points.  This has now been reduced to about 40 points.
  • For the non top-20 teams shown, several of us have consolidated our place in the top 10k and improved our rank but the gap to the top has steadily widened.

Current deficits from world number 1

  • 10th = 42 points
  • 20th = 58 points
  • 50th = 72 points
  • 100th = 81 points
  • 500th = 114 points
  • 1000th = 132 points

Implications for overall winner

There are still ten Gameweeks of the season left so plenty of points remain up for grabs, particularly with double Gameweeks looking likely for several teams. The data above shows a 40-point deficit can be made up in just a few Gameweeks. This bodes well for the top 10. A deficit of 60 points is not impossible to make up (i.e the top 20 can still win). Beyond that it becomes much more unlikely – personally I think the overall winner will almost certainly come from the current top 50.

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  1. J0E
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 14 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    So looks like I have no chance...oh, well next season maybe. 😉

  2. King Henrik
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Depressing post

  3. Jawain - 9th overall 2014/2…
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Stand a chance then!

    1. Rhinos
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      All I get from this is Leeds United struggling to make the playoffs 🙂

  4. NABIL - FPL otai
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    To me, It's all about following/getting certain template players and finding certain differentials. And now I'm back in top 33 and raring to go. Top 100 here we go!

    1. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      *300 😛

      1. Holmes
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Top 33 is better 😉

        1. Woy of the Wovers
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          I agree 😉 Realistically, top 2 though for me. And one bad week will probably kill that off.

  5. Holmes
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    I dont have a chance to win this stuff for next 5 seasons atleast, if only I was a dullard! 😆

  6. andy85wsm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 13 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Without reading I knew I had no chance.

    Jumping from 100k to 10k is great but doesn't mean a lot when looking at winning overall. Much harder to jump that many places as you get higher rank.

    1. Ruth_NZ
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      In fact it's impossible as there are only 10k places left to rise.

      100k to 10k is proportionately equivalent to 10k to 1k although at the extreme ends of the "bell curve" climbing places would indeed be somewhat harder.. I believe I beat the top 1k average in 7 of the 8 GWs concerned though, often by some distance. Maybe enough for 10k to 3k?

      Now that I have some knowledge of how the game works and how to set up a squad I will hopefully not be coming from such an awful start next season. 😉

      1. Woy of the Wovers
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Gap from 10k to 1k is smaller than 100k to 10k. It's even smaller from 1k to 100 and from 100 to 10.

  7. The FPL Units
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    An outside chance for me.

  8. Beavis
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Boooooo!!

  9. Barry Woj
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Nice article. Would be interesting to know what the trend has been over the past couple of seasons - although I guess that data might be hard to come by!

  10. Venters
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Beautiful graphs!

  11. Stoichkov
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Great article, really interesting.

    I have the data for last season's top 10.

    The winner was 52nd after GW23, then jumped to 17th and then continued climbing, hitting 1 in GW36 and then holding on.

    After GW28, the guy who came 2nd was 347th - and ended up coming second by only one point - so maybe there are still chances for those outside the top 50?

    Also the 7th finisher was at 945 after GW28 (and got a red arrow in GW29 as well!)

    1. Stoichkov
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Let me add one more - at GW28 last year I was at 96073, and I finished in 8027

      So keep going everyone!!!! Still plenty to go for

      1. Woy of the Wovers
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        I recall that breaking into top 100k last year was really tough. It got easier after that.

    2. Sticky Mockwell
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Interesting, thanks! Maybe there is more movement towards the end of the season with double GWs and people taking more risks to try and improve their rank. Hope so as it makes the rest of the season more interesting.

  12. Patch
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Nice article. Thanks. I think a key consideration is whether managers have wildcards still to play. Do we know how many of the top 100 have wildcards still to play?

    1. Sticky Mockwell
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Thanks, I'll allow someone else to work that one out....Its about 25% for the top 10k

  13. Az
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 14 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    What an incredible article... Really, really good job buddy!

    1. Sticky Mockwell
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Cheers, I did the graphs for my own interest and then thought why not write it up. Always the worry that everyone else will find it unbelievably tedious!

  14. John t penguin
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    I accept the fact I wasn't included is simply down to the page not being big enough to cope with the size of graph needed to show points gap

    1. Sticky Mockwell
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      I can include you next time but you'll need to link your team!

  15. Patch
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Wow. Aguero's 4 goals in GW8 was a real watershed moment, wasn't it?

    1. Sticky Mockwell
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Not just Aguero but the Southampton 8-0 win against Sunderland and a big Baines haul. Its a very painful memory!

      My gap to the world number 1 increased by 74 points that week, which is almost half my overall deficit (161).

      1. Patch
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        True. It should be enshrined in the FFS hall of fame for season-defining GWs.

  16. TwiggsJameson
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Well, i'm 78 points behind Simon, so I reckon I have a tiny chance of catching him. But the only way is to gamble big time. I need to ship out some big hitters and bring in some big differentials. For example, Aguero -> Sturridge. Costa looks like a good differential in the top 50 but I hesitate to bring him in this week after 120 minutes last night.

    1. TwiggsJameson
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      And don't choose the obvious captain.

      1. MCH
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Yeh the only way you could improve your chances of winning is by also incresing your chances of finishing up outside the top few thousand at the same time! Have to decide whether you want to increase the variance and try have a shot at top spot while also risking it go horribly wrong or just keep on going and trying to get an impressive rank but all but ruling out actually winning.

    2. money face bandwagon
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      even when u gamble u should keep the essential players..aguero has 2 great fixtures so is not the player to remove.

      try taking out other players

      1. TwiggsJameson
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Yeah, I shan't be taking him out immediately. But possibly GW34 is the time to switch him to a DGWer, Sturridge possibly. I was planning Austin-> Costa as no one in the top 50 has him anymore, but I think I might hold off a week after last night.

        1. Woy of the Wovers
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          I don't think you'll be the only one doing this. I would be surprised if Aguero's ownership in top 50 drops below 75% in GW34.

          1. Woy of the Wovers
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 2 months ago

            *wouldn't 😳

    3. Sticky Mockwell
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      I think its quite possible you could overtake Simon in the remaining 10 GWs but much more difficult to overtake the 83 others ahead of you and many others nipping at your heals. Good luck!

      1. TwiggsJameson
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Yep, indeed. Great article by the way.

  17. TwiggsJameson
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Hindsight is a great thing, but in retrospect I can now see the last gameweek has really not helped anyone catch the leaders. It has tended to push teams further into a template.

    For example I have 9 of the same players the leader has (Foster, Terry, Erik, Haz, Silva, Boyd, Austin, Aguero, Kane). And I have Bertrand instead of Clyne which makes it 10 near as damn it.

    I also have Pantillimon and PVA, like many other players at the top.

    My only real differentials are Siggy, Koscielny and Trippier.

    1. Woy of the Wovers
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Mane was a good differential last week. Simon sold him.

  18. MCH
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    I went from 1m to inside the top 10k in 12 weeks after a disaster of a start thats the easy part though tough to keep on moving after that.

    The amount of points that is likely to be possible will be higher than normal given the amount of DGWs we'll see and that a few people will still have the WC which may mean teams will be that little bit more different than we have seen for the last few weeks.

    1. Woy of the Wovers
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      I don't think so if you look at ranks in exponential terms - ie having one less digit. Your two biggest problems are a) not enough GW, and b) there's a fairly narrow template atm.

    2. Sticky Mockwell
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      That's impressive. GW8 again was the game changer I see

  19. Robben Mee Blind
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Fascinating read- cheers for this @sticky

    1. Sticky Mockwell
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      No worries, thanks

  20. Sarnab
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    I am in the current top 50.. Good news

  21. GreenWindmill
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    I'm in a graph! I'm in a graph! 😀

    Loving this analysis, interesting to note that whilst I've continued to creep up the rankings since GW23 my points deficit has actually widened so my apparent progress was actually misleading.

    1. Sticky Mockwell
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Its only your deficit to Dufflinks that has widened (slightly), you've kept pace with the rest of the top 20. Good luck for the rest of the season

      1. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Cheers Sticky, Dufflinks has basically broken the game 🙂

  22. Margarido
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Great article.
    Congrats.

    Last year was 11k in GW 27, finished 329 th.
    But took a few risks like captaining Sturridge twice in a row when Suarez had just 1 assist...

  23. Get up ya bum
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    fascinating stuff

  24. Zilla42
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    "So, you're saying there is a chance!"

    Lloyd, Dumb & Dumber

  25. blacky231
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    I did a maths degree many years ago and would have loved to have known about fantasy football back then.

    Can we get some maths graduate to do his or her dissertation on how to win?

    I think plenty of stats modules would help whoever chooses to go down this route.

    Thoughts?