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GOOD PRODUCT MANAGEMENT 
For CTO School Meetup 
Nov 10 2014 
Giff Constable 
www.neo.com
WHO AM I? 
6 startups over the years 
currently CEO of Neo Innovation 
co-organizer of Lean Lessons Learned meetup 
author of Talking to Humans
I went looking for stories on PM-Engineering 
collaboration, and got horror stories
I also discovered some jokes
Q. what’s the best way to pay a product manager? 
A. American Express. They love taking credit for 
things. 
Source: The Cooper Review
We know what good engineering looks like. 
We’ve got a more advanced understanding now as 
to what good design looks like. 
But what about product management?
What is a good product manager? 
How to be a great partner to them? 
Appendix: How to hire for them?
1. WHAT MAKES A GOOD PRODUCT 
MANAGER
Product managers are not “one size fits all”
Process 
Creative 
Vision 
Engineering 
Skills 
Communication 
& Empathy 
Business Design Skills 
Skills 
Domain 
Expertise
“You need to hire PMs for attitude over aptitude” 
- Satya Patel 
http://venturegeneratedcontent.com/2014/10/30/what-makes-a-great-product-manager/
12 attitude traits of a good product manager
GOOD PRODUCT MANAGER 
Leads and serves at the same time
BAD PRODUCT MANAGER 
Thinks managing people means telling them what 
to do and how to do it (aka “requirements”)
GOOD PRODUCT MANAGER 
Has great product ideas, but spends as much time 
fostering the creativity of the team
BAD PRODUCT MANAGER 
Thinks their ideas (or their boss’ ideas) are God’s 
gift
GOOD PRODUCT MANAGER 
Can balance a healthy obsession with data and 
experiment-driven development, along with a 
healthy respect for vision, risk and intuition
BAD PRODUCT MANAGER 
Pegs either end of the spectrum, with total worship 
or total rejection of metrics
GOOD PRODUCT MANAGER 
Deeply understands the customer’s needs and 
behavior through direct contact, not indirect 
research
BAD PRODUCT MANAGER 
Hides behind the sales team, the customer support 
team, the Gartner Group reports
GOOD PRODUCT MANAGER 
Understands the power of focus and simplicity
BAD PRODUCT MANAGER 
Thinks more features are always better
GOOD PRODUCT MANAGER 
Is a master at managing everyone’s expectations 
while making people feel listened to and respected
BAD PRODUCT MANAGER 
Forgets that their constituency is people above, 
below, across and even outside the company
GOOD PRODUCT MANAGER 
Understands tech debt − they might ask for it, but 
they will fight to pay it down later
BAD PRODUCT MANAGER 
Thinks the engineers just need to work harder 
because customer-facing features are all that 
matter
GOOD PRODUCT MANAGER 
Knows when an outcome is necessary, and 
efficiently iterates until it is accomplished 
Knows when a deadline is necessary, and 
ruthlessly manages scope 
Knows when a feature output is necessary, and 
effectively manages timing
BAD PRODUCT MANAGER 
Can’t even think about outcomes − can only think 
about the next feature to ship 
Promises fixed scope against fixed deadlines 
Is not pragmatic enough to do what needs being 
done, or even understand it
GOOD PRODUCT MANAGER 
Feels responsible for how the product is bought, 
sold, and marketed
BAD PRODUCT MANAGER 
Thinks their job stops once the feature is shipped
GOOD PRODUCT MANAGER 
Takes the time to deeply understand the production 
process across all functions
BAD PRODUCT MANAGER 
Thinks everything takes a weekend, because they 
don’t have a clue
GOOD PRODUCT MANAGER 
Can come from any discipline, but knows their job 
is to balance across all disciplines now
BAD PRODUCT MANAGER 
Can’t stop meddling in the area they know best, 
and favors it when compromise is needed
GOOD PRODUCT MANAGER 
SHIPS
BAD PRODUCT MANAGER 
BLAMES
I view these traits as non-negotiable 
Hire for it and fire for it
see a detailed skills matrix at 
careers.neo.com
2. HOW TO BE A GREAT PARTNER TO 
PRODUCT MANAGEMENT?
Think strategically about the pressures on the 
business, not just the pressures on engineering
Be a creative partner fascinated by customer 
needs and willing to gather direct research on 
those needs
Inspire your engineers to be creative partners, not 
just in engineering problems, but product 
problems
Don’t sandbag
Be willing to accept tech debt, but don’t hesitate to 
challenge it
On tech debt: include infrastructure-related KPIs 
in your heartbeat report on key metrics 
Early stage: refactor as you can, plan for periodic 
infrastructure-focused iterations, and don’t be 
afraid to call an audible 
Later stage: refactor as you can, and create a 
rotating team that is dedicated to infrastructure
Engineering, product and design all need to report 
into the CEO − create a trio of equal partners
Create a team working agreement for leadership, 
not just the cross-functional teams
PM owns the outcomes and priorities 
Design owns the user experience, voice and visual 
identity 
Engineering owns how something is built 
But everyone is a creative partner and gets a say
A product business requires constant compromise 
because quality is a relative thing 
Sometimes you will deeply disagree with a 
decision 
Build appeals to the CEO, who makes the final call, 
into your team agreement so that you have a 
transparent process not politics
Do retros together to spot problems early
If you are in the same location, the heads of all 
three groups should sit together, just as your 
cross-functional teams should sit together
Be generous − depending on priorities, product, 
design and engineering will have different times in 
the driver’s seat
If there isn’t mutual respect and trust, someone 
has to go. Period.
THANK YOU 
@giffco 
giff@neo.com 
www.neo.com 
www.giffconstable.com
APPENDIX: HOW CAN YOU INTERVIEW 
FOR A GOOD PM?
1. Know what you are looking for 
2. Do a traditional interview on experiences, goals, 
values, failures, favorite new product, current 
reading list, etc 
3. PAIR
Give them a gnarly product problem you are 
currently working on and see if they can solve it
Ask them to sketch out a single-screen application 
and then write every single user story behind that 
application 
Example: a single-screen loyalty-program app for an airline
Give them a startup idea and ask how one could 
validate if it was a good idea before building it
Give them an interesting product idea, and ask 
how one would go about best acquiring 
customers?
Give them a problem that has been bugging you, 
and ask how one could solve it with a new startup?
Give them a true, complex prioritization debate 
your team is having and ask them whether 
outcome, deadline, or output is most important 
Note: their answer here is less important than their questions
You know how non-technical friends ask you to 
interview their CTO candidate? 
Get a great PM to interview your VP of Product 
candidate

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What is good product management

  • 1. GOOD PRODUCT MANAGEMENT For CTO School Meetup Nov 10 2014 Giff Constable www.neo.com
  • 2. WHO AM I? 6 startups over the years currently CEO of Neo Innovation co-organizer of Lean Lessons Learned meetup author of Talking to Humans
  • 3. I went looking for stories on PM-Engineering collaboration, and got horror stories
  • 4. I also discovered some jokes
  • 5. Q. what’s the best way to pay a product manager? A. American Express. They love taking credit for things. Source: The Cooper Review
  • 6. We know what good engineering looks like. We’ve got a more advanced understanding now as to what good design looks like. But what about product management?
  • 7. What is a good product manager? How to be a great partner to them? Appendix: How to hire for them?
  • 8. 1. WHAT MAKES A GOOD PRODUCT MANAGER
  • 9. Product managers are not “one size fits all”
  • 10. Process Creative Vision Engineering Skills Communication & Empathy Business Design Skills Skills Domain Expertise
  • 11. “You need to hire PMs for attitude over aptitude” - Satya Patel http://venturegeneratedcontent.com/2014/10/30/what-makes-a-great-product-manager/
  • 12. 12 attitude traits of a good product manager
  • 13. GOOD PRODUCT MANAGER Leads and serves at the same time
  • 14. BAD PRODUCT MANAGER Thinks managing people means telling them what to do and how to do it (aka “requirements”)
  • 15. GOOD PRODUCT MANAGER Has great product ideas, but spends as much time fostering the creativity of the team
  • 16. BAD PRODUCT MANAGER Thinks their ideas (or their boss’ ideas) are God’s gift
  • 17. GOOD PRODUCT MANAGER Can balance a healthy obsession with data and experiment-driven development, along with a healthy respect for vision, risk and intuition
  • 18. BAD PRODUCT MANAGER Pegs either end of the spectrum, with total worship or total rejection of metrics
  • 19. GOOD PRODUCT MANAGER Deeply understands the customer’s needs and behavior through direct contact, not indirect research
  • 20. BAD PRODUCT MANAGER Hides behind the sales team, the customer support team, the Gartner Group reports
  • 21. GOOD PRODUCT MANAGER Understands the power of focus and simplicity
  • 22. BAD PRODUCT MANAGER Thinks more features are always better
  • 23. GOOD PRODUCT MANAGER Is a master at managing everyone’s expectations while making people feel listened to and respected
  • 24. BAD PRODUCT MANAGER Forgets that their constituency is people above, below, across and even outside the company
  • 25. GOOD PRODUCT MANAGER Understands tech debt − they might ask for it, but they will fight to pay it down later
  • 26. BAD PRODUCT MANAGER Thinks the engineers just need to work harder because customer-facing features are all that matter
  • 27. GOOD PRODUCT MANAGER Knows when an outcome is necessary, and efficiently iterates until it is accomplished Knows when a deadline is necessary, and ruthlessly manages scope Knows when a feature output is necessary, and effectively manages timing
  • 28. BAD PRODUCT MANAGER Can’t even think about outcomes − can only think about the next feature to ship Promises fixed scope against fixed deadlines Is not pragmatic enough to do what needs being done, or even understand it
  • 29. GOOD PRODUCT MANAGER Feels responsible for how the product is bought, sold, and marketed
  • 30. BAD PRODUCT MANAGER Thinks their job stops once the feature is shipped
  • 31. GOOD PRODUCT MANAGER Takes the time to deeply understand the production process across all functions
  • 32. BAD PRODUCT MANAGER Thinks everything takes a weekend, because they don’t have a clue
  • 33. GOOD PRODUCT MANAGER Can come from any discipline, but knows their job is to balance across all disciplines now
  • 34. BAD PRODUCT MANAGER Can’t stop meddling in the area they know best, and favors it when compromise is needed
  • 37. I view these traits as non-negotiable Hire for it and fire for it
  • 38. see a detailed skills matrix at careers.neo.com
  • 39. 2. HOW TO BE A GREAT PARTNER TO PRODUCT MANAGEMENT?
  • 40. Think strategically about the pressures on the business, not just the pressures on engineering
  • 41. Be a creative partner fascinated by customer needs and willing to gather direct research on those needs
  • 42. Inspire your engineers to be creative partners, not just in engineering problems, but product problems
  • 44. Be willing to accept tech debt, but don’t hesitate to challenge it
  • 45. On tech debt: include infrastructure-related KPIs in your heartbeat report on key metrics Early stage: refactor as you can, plan for periodic infrastructure-focused iterations, and don’t be afraid to call an audible Later stage: refactor as you can, and create a rotating team that is dedicated to infrastructure
  • 46. Engineering, product and design all need to report into the CEO − create a trio of equal partners
  • 47. Create a team working agreement for leadership, not just the cross-functional teams
  • 48. PM owns the outcomes and priorities Design owns the user experience, voice and visual identity Engineering owns how something is built But everyone is a creative partner and gets a say
  • 49. A product business requires constant compromise because quality is a relative thing Sometimes you will deeply disagree with a decision Build appeals to the CEO, who makes the final call, into your team agreement so that you have a transparent process not politics
  • 50. Do retros together to spot problems early
  • 51. If you are in the same location, the heads of all three groups should sit together, just as your cross-functional teams should sit together
  • 52. Be generous − depending on priorities, product, design and engineering will have different times in the driver’s seat
  • 53. If there isn’t mutual respect and trust, someone has to go. Period.
  • 54. THANK YOU @giffco giff@neo.com www.neo.com www.giffconstable.com
  • 55. APPENDIX: HOW CAN YOU INTERVIEW FOR A GOOD PM?
  • 56. 1. Know what you are looking for 2. Do a traditional interview on experiences, goals, values, failures, favorite new product, current reading list, etc 3. PAIR
  • 57. Give them a gnarly product problem you are currently working on and see if they can solve it
  • 58. Ask them to sketch out a single-screen application and then write every single user story behind that application Example: a single-screen loyalty-program app for an airline
  • 59. Give them a startup idea and ask how one could validate if it was a good idea before building it
  • 60. Give them an interesting product idea, and ask how one would go about best acquiring customers?
  • 61. Give them a problem that has been bugging you, and ask how one could solve it with a new startup?
  • 62. Give them a true, complex prioritization debate your team is having and ask them whether outcome, deadline, or output is most important Note: their answer here is less important than their questions
  • 63. You know how non-technical friends ask you to interview their CTO candidate? Get a great PM to interview your VP of Product candidate