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Sugar Baby hobby versus this hobby ...
some-guy 6 Reviews 1405 reads
posted
1 / 20

Like some others on this board, I have been doing the whole sugar baby dating thing for at least a year now. And I've found it to be pretty satisfying overall. But the more I do it, the more I've been noticing sort of a trend. And it's a trend that wasn't as prevalent even last year; or at least it doesn't seem that way.

But what I've been noticing lately is that half the time, I can barely make out a distinction anymore between "that hobby" and THIS hobby. And the movement I see is more of a convergence. It's not as if the sugar babies are simply becoming more like providers (which they are), but with the popularity of the "girlfriend experience," it's like the providers are also stealing a page out of the sugar baby playbook.

Take this past Thursday night: I met a girl from a sugar baby site out for drinks and she basically offered me the girlfriend experience. We got a hotel and got down to business. At the end of the night I give her a money gift for "bills," and then we part ways.

Two days later, I meet a provider at a hotel. I drop the "gift" on the table. We get down to business ... she offers me the girlfriend experience and then I'm off to catch a taxi home.

Only real difference between the two encounters I can think of ... was that I met the SB out for drinks first. So it sort of felt a little bit more like meeting a civie. But then again, a lot of providers will do that too if you want. The other part was the donation. There wasn't a fixed amount or a requirement for it with the SB, but there is a very well-established unwritten / unspoken code of honor that she's going to get some help "with school." :-) And of course, a lot of the time, there is an outright contractual agreement ... but even that part I am seeing going out the window. More and more, these girls aren't even asking if we can sit down and discuss an arrangement or an allowance. They're just looking for some quick cash any way they can get it.

Anyway, I'm just finding it interesting how what used to seem like two very separate and distinct types of hobbies are starting more and more to feel like the exact same thing.

Anyone else?

octavia.lexa See my TER Reviews 603 reads
posted
2 / 20

i found being a provider to be less time consuming with a better payout, than being a sugar baby....
it is just me...i rather be an honest ho than a hustler...sa could work really good for hustler types who use sob stories to milk the sugar daddy for all they can while putting out as less as possible...
i found one sugar daddy who was giving me 3k a month, i was staying with him most of the week...he never bought me any gifts or anything...was always complaining that it is after-tax money he has to give me unlike alimony to his ex-wife that 7k pre-tax.. i know i was grossly underpaid, but i did not care for amount because i enjoyed his company and living in a mansion in a ritzy town...later i found out his sugar baby before me got free boob job out of him and he used to pay her 3k for a weekend and would fly her in from poland..becoming an escort made life much less stressful and drama free...i can make 3k in two days and nobody owns me ...

but if a girl is a hustler she can get a lot of freebies from one sugar daddy and does not have to risk her life being an escort and put up with  screening bs on daily basis and being public person who gets reviewed and discussed on the forums ...i have heard of girls getting hefty allowance, free plastic surgeries, cars and trips...thus sugar daddy thing could be beneficial but you have to ask for stuff, and i do not like asking for stuff

from my own experience being girlfriend of famous malpractice lawyer is less of a pay but more of status , being an escort is better pay , less drama but does not come with any widely accepted social status and  you are just are pretty much piece of meat available for everybody...

some of clients have a full time sugar babies that they fully support and spoil...why they still escorts?because once sugar baby knows she got you by balls and you are emotionally attached to you, she does not need to put out, so you still have to hire escorts to get laid while supporting a lazy girl who thinks she is all that...booo

thotlover 429 reads
posted
3 / 20

For many of us with SOs, the hobby is a god send. A wide array of different, gorgeous, sexy providers with a  a wide range of rates and diverse menus.  No drama or ongoing expectations, very little risk and predictable outcomes. I cannot understand why guys like me would ever opt for SBs. Even if you want the GFE and the dinner/date or even role play scenario, the hobby is an easy choice. Perhaps guys who chose SBs are hoping for a long term relationship, so it is like a dating service.

Dr. joe 32 Reviews 484 reads
posted
4 / 20

I would consider sugar baby arrangement.  I find my wife still an attractive and interesting companion.  I am interested in a broader sexual experience so the hobby is perfect for me (tho I still am so happy with the few friends with benefits I have as well.)  
If I were single, I would look for sex and an occasionally available travel and social companion with the danger of progression to complication..

mrfisher 107 Reviews 369 reads
posted
5 / 20

What started out as a group of renters or owners putting their properties up for let here and there is now migrating to a group of enterprising individuals leasing or buying swaths of properties, especially in hot tourist areas like San Francisco, and making them available full time for the BnB crowd.

"The thrill is gone." as the late BB King would sing.

I for one am leery of involvement with the SB scene.  (BnB too for that matter)  I get enough  emotional attachments  already in the straight P4P scene

some-guy 6 Reviews 397 reads
posted
6 / 20

re an influx of gals who are just dabbling in to the lifestyle because they're looking for fast cash. They don't want to be an escort, and they don't REALLY want to be a SB either. So they just sort of look for a temporary, no-strings-attached fling for some money. Essentially being a pseudo-provider without the social stigma, and with the opportunity to be more selective in their clientelle.

For these types, I think they may have stumbled upon a certain in-between that works for them. They get the monetary benefits of being a provider while enjoying a pre-made marketing vehicle in these sugar dating sites ... while not necessarily putting themselves in as much danger (i.e. they can get to know the guy first and only put out if they like him).

For a guy like myself, it's less expensive because, well, she's kind of desperate for money, and might just hop in the sack with you for less $$ since she's already invested some time in getting to know you, and you might just be her best possible option for that particular evening. :-)

Just a trend I've been seeing lately. The SB / SD scene is no longer just a venue for the Hugh Heffner's or Charlie Sheen's to have these live-in concubine. Or for the mid-life crisis guy to have the pseudo girlfriend who offers arm candy and affection in exchange for regular shopping trips. There's a distinct segment that is more and more in almost direct competition with this hobby

russbbj 89 Reviews 398 reads
posted
7 / 20

SB's sound too much like work. I want to get sucked and fucked, I want to know exactly how much that's going to cost me and exactly how much time. I am not in any way interested in anything resembling "the chase". I like sure things, with minimal effort.

Reality is, even if there is a SB/SD relationship and she gives you the GFE, she isn't and likely doesn't want to really be your GF, so why the sharades?

some-guy 6 Reviews 352 reads
posted
8 / 20

ith some of these sugar dating sites, you actually specify your budget in your profile. And she specifies her asking price in hers. And before you actually enter an arrangement, you can pretty much specify how much time you expect to spend together ... and even how much sex you want. :-

TheGovernor 109 Reviews 447 reads
posted
9 / 20

Closer to SD/SB relationship....did not plan it just way......it just happened.  She was tired of the drama of working with a service.  Life's circumstances plus working on her graduate degree+ timing.  From my end there are no surprises, no haggling, Great GFE experiences.  I still have the luxury of p4p whenever I wish.

Posted By: some-guy
 
 Like some others on this board, I have been doing the whole sugar baby dating thing for at least a year now. And I've found it to be pretty satisfying overall. But the more I do it, the more I've been noticing sort of a trend. And it's a trend that wasn't as prevalent even last year; or at least it doesn't seem that way.  
   
 But what I've been noticing lately is that half the time, I can barely make out a distinction anymore between "that hobby" and THIS hobby. And the movement I see is more of a convergence. It's not as if the sugar babies are simply becoming more like providers (which they are), but with the popularity of the "girlfriend experience," it's like the providers are also stealing a page out of the sugar baby playbook.  
   
 Take this past Thursday night: I met a girl from a sugar baby site out for drinks and she basically offered me the girlfriend experience. We got a hotel and got down to business. At the end of the night I give her a money gift for "bills," and then we part ways.  
   
 Two days later, I meet a provider at a hotel. I drop the "gift" on the table. We get down to business ... she offers me the girlfriend experience and then I'm off to catch a taxi home.  
   
 Only real difference between the two encounters I can think of ... was that I met the SB out for drinks first. So it sort of felt a little bit more like meeting a civie. But then again, a lot of providers will do that too if you want. The other part was the donation. There wasn't a fixed amount or a requirement for it with the SB, but there is a very well-established unwritten / unspoken code of honor that she's going to get some help "with school." :-) And of course, a lot of the time, there is an outright contractual agreement ... but even that part I am seeing going out the window. More and more, these girls aren't even asking if we can sit down and discuss an arrangement or an allowance. They're just looking for some quick cash any way they can get it.  
   
 Anyway, I'm just finding it interesting how what used to seem like two very separate and distinct types of hobbies are starting more and more to feel like the exact same thing.  
   
 Anyone else?

69guy69 2 Reviews 371 reads
posted
11 / 20

Once you try the former and have a good time,  
you don't go back to the latter.

Best is when a provider realizes it and 'retires'.
She becomes a Sugar babe to you and a few others.
Fewer risks from LE.

I'm switching to SB's. Heck many are former providers  
if you know hoe to spot'em on Seeking A.

boneclothes 22 Reviews 346 reads
posted
12 / 20

that more providers would move to SA. Considering not much chance of LE using it. Possibly easier screening on SA but I don't know for sure. Maybe one of the gals could answer that.

octavia.lexa See my TER Reviews 340 reads
posted
13 / 20

sa can be quite dangerous, since you are not officially a provider you cannot official require screening. they do not allow "escorts" on that websites, it is a joke of course...most of providers also have sa profiles...And many men act like big shots just to avoid giving out personal info....you really don't know you are meeting...many have this idea that every girl on there is a desperate and naive college girl that will do anything for any kind of benefit...many expect you to put out for a fancy dinner, 100-150$ or just f..ck them because they drive a fancy car, and live in a mansion in some ritzy town...some even expect you to put for promises and potential future benefits...so girl is at the risk of being used and have her time times waster...at this point sugar daddy to me = regular who i have amazing chemistry with and who can afford and has desire to take me out and buy me gifts, then in exchange he gets some extra non-rushed time without being on a clock all the time...

and seems like everybody here assumes every girl you meet on sa is automatically gfe?what makes you think that she won't be mechanical? that is really strange assumption to me ...
Posted By: boneclothes
that more providers would move to SA. Considering not much chance of LE using it. Possibly easier screening on SA but I don't know for sure. Maybe one of the gals could answer that.

thotlover 298 reads
posted
14 / 20

Let me see. You have two reviews over the last couple of months and you are in no position to compare this hobby to SB/SD. You should STFU and listen to people who have been around for while

Cardinal_Richelieu 2 Reviews 338 reads
posted
15 / 20

Just left a three year arrangement.  The lines between a business arrangement and affection got blurred. The hobby is much more straight forward and less expensive in the long run.

Yes, I have only two reviews but I've been away from the hobby for a while, and my last lovely provider asked me not to review her.  Too bad, she would have gotten straight A's!!

some-guy 6 Reviews 293 reads
posted
16 / 20

Posted By: octavia lexa

sa can be quite dangerous, since you are not officially a provider you cannot official require screening.
You can do whatever you want. If you wanted to screen, there's nothing stopping you, although it might seem a little odd. :-)

The vast majority of the girls I meet on sa ask to meet in public. We get drinks or coffee, sometimes lunch. Whatever. About 1/3 of the time, I decide she's not my type (usually they don't look like their pics so it's like BP all over again). And another 1/3 of the time she'll decide I'm not her type and we'll move on. And the other 1/3 of the time, I'll either take her to a hotel after a few drinks or I'll meet her again the following week and take her to a hotel. :-) (I guess that extra week just makes them feel like they're not a slut or something. ha ha)
Posted By: octavia.lexa

 and seems like everybody here assumes every girl you meet on sa is automatically gfe?what makes you think that she won't be mechanical? that is really strange assumption to me ...
Most of the profiles you read ... the gal wants there to be "personal chemistry," and they go out of their way to promise all sorts of affection and to satisfy ALL of your needs, etc. So yea, there is an expectation that if a girlfriend experience is one of your requirements, then she should fulfill that, or you drop her and move on to the next SB. If a girl is mechanical and the guy doesn't complain ... then obviously he must be okay with it

SeductiveConcierge See my TER Reviews 336 reads
posted
17 / 20

I like seeking arrangements but I stopped using it when a gentleman I met on that site requested a P411 okay from me. All we did was go to dinner and a concert. We had a great time, but when I use those sites I use my real name. I let you know all of who I am. I have only had one really successful relationship with a gentleman off of sugar daddy.com. He took care of my needs of things I would personally never spend my own money on and we had a great time. We still get together from time to time when I feel the need for an expensive pair of shoes or dress other than that it is what it is.  

For me I prefer being in a SB/SD relationship only when I am single. I can make the time, put Andrea on hold and go about my life. When I am in a relationship it's easier for me to be a provider, I set a schedule, stick to it and can make time for who holds the key to my heart.  

Many ladies can't be both due to the fact they are used to escort money. Others can because they have outside jobs, or in school, or just need a break to explore a new adventure. To each their own.

Andrea

shad0wwalker 352 reads
posted
18 / 20

SA and sugaring has gotten a lot of attention from the media. Articles, a TV special, social media. It has drastically changed the landscape of sugaring. I sugared before I became a provider and I did have a gentleman whom I would consider a true sugar daddy. He paid my bills, gave me an allowance, bought me gifts, sent me on spa dates, flew me to different places. He moved out of the country but we still talk.

I decided to become a provider a bit later. I have since tried SA again and it's a cesspool of men who heard about sugaring on the internet and think it's a dating site with above average looking females. Most men on SA have incomes less than $75000. Any person with a few functioning neurons can realize that his ability to give you anything is slim to none. Why would escorts want to use SA? There is literally no benefit. Nothing is guaranteed, you waste an inordinate amount of time chatting and of course "send more pics!!!!!!!!".  

Most non-providers on SA are becoming more provider like because that's what the men are demanding. Most men on SA don't have the cash to actually support a sugar baby so they are looking for a bargain escort.

scb19 10 Reviews 287 reads
posted
20 / 20

Posted By: octavia.lexa

thus sugar daddy thing could be beneficial but you have to ask for stuff, and i do not like asking for stuff.

A sugar baby that has to ask for stuff ain't doing something right...In my fantasy of having "The Girls Next Door" sort of thing, my girl(s) is happy want wants for nothing.

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