Detective Stabler
Richard Brindley. Not a cop. Doesn’t play one on TV.
The story of how The Village Church in Dallas excommunicated a woman for having her marriage to an admitted child porn viewer annulled was initially carried at Watch Keep. From the “Initial thoughts” email, original text:
3. I was thinking a lot about your fears last night that Jordan may not have confessed everything. That has weighed heavily on me. You can be sure that we will dig there. You also questioned whether you have a duty to inform the families and ministries Jordan has worked with involving kids. I wanted to speak to that briefly.
Should further sin come to light, then absolutely, whoever was effected will need to be notified immediately. But, for now, I think it might be best to hold off communicating the possibility of sexual molestation to families since it is just, currently, a possibility. I say that primarily because even the mention of a potential offense like this could send parents into a panic that might be unwarranted. Even the potential of that could be traumatizing to families. I think the most loving thing we could do for them is to wait to see if any evidence surfaces that would be cause for accusation.
Secondarily, it is worth considering that just the possibility of an offense like that would cast a devastating stigma on Jordan for life- one that would be difficult, if not impossible to erase should Jordan be found innocent in that matter. because this is one of those areas where our society treats a person as guilty until proven innocent, I believe it’s best to wait for evidence to communicate anything that might be received as an accusation or even possibility of child molestation.
You can rest assured that if evidence does come to light that molestation might have happened, then we will absolutely communicate that quickly to those who need to know.
I’ll see if Steve or the other elders have any other thoughts there, but I wanted to share my initial thoughts.
I was thinking a lot about your fears Fears are sinful. You should be acting in FAITH! last night that Jordan may not have confessed everything. That has weighed heavily on me I am taking this great burden seriously. I am a man of God. You can be sure that we will dig there I have seen every episode of Law and Order SVU and I am an expert at this. Don’t worry. You also questioned whether you have a duty to inform the families and ministries Jordan has worked with involving kids. I wanted to speak to that briefly. I’m an expert at that too.
Should further sin come to light, then absolutely, whoever was effected will need to be notified immediately. And how will that happen if the kids haven’t told the parents and the parents don’t know to seek help for their kids? But, for now, I think it might be best And I know best. to hold off communicating the possibility of sexual molestation to families since it is just, currently, a possibility Unless it isn’t. Communicating it to the families doesn’t make it happen. Holding off just makes it so you don’t have to know that it happened if it did.
I say that primarily because even the mention of a potential offense like this could send parents into a panic that might be unwarranted. I saw that on an episode of Law and Order SVU once. It was awful. You don’t want to be responsible for making families panic now do you? That would be cruel. Even the potential of that could be traumatizing to families. How could you even consider traumatizing poor families? I think the most loving thing we could do for them is to wait to see if any evidence surfaces that would be cause for accusation.And how would we do that? Wait for him to tell us? How would Detective Stabler coerce a perp to confess to that? What’s your plan there detective pastor?
Secondarily, it is worth considering that just the possibility of an offense like that would cast a devastating stigma Oh, no! A stigma! He’s pleasured himself to images of CHILDREN being abused, but you don’t want him to have a stigma. Did he really just say that out loud? on Jordan for life – one that would be difficult, if not impossible to erase should Jordan be found innocent in that matter. Here’s where he really demonstrates his lack of legal training or expertise. People aren’t “found innocent” because none are innocent. They are found “not guilty.” The real Stabler would know that.
Because this is one of those areas where our society treats a person as guilty until proven innocent, Well secular society does. Much of Christendom demands that we pretend it never happened lest the perp endure a stigma. I believe it’s best And I know best. to wait for evidence to communicate anything that might be received as an accusation or even possibility of child molestation. My head is going to explode.
You can rest assured Just sleep tight little lady. The menfolk L&O Stabler wannabes are on the case! that if evidence does come to light that molestation might have happened, then we will absolutely communicate that quickly to those who need to know. We have a Bat Signal in the interrogation room at TVC to help us communicate quickly!
I’ll see if Steve or the other elders have any other thoughts there, but I wanted to share my initial thoughts. Is Steve an actual detective? When you guys play good cop/bad cop in the interrogation room, which one is Steve? The good cop or the bad cop? I am not resting assured.
If you would like a private translation of manipulative communication, email Ellie at TranslationsByEllie@gmail.com.
Translations By Ellie 
Bingo, Ellie! Very well done. Even someone like me who has scarcely ever watched Law and Order could understand this perfectly.
Well, unless they happened to be an elder or pastor of a mega church or any other church that’s into image management at the expense of the vulnerable. Like children.
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“… if evidence does come to light that molestation might have happened, then we will absolutely communicate that quickly to those who need to know.” (said Brindley)
The evidence has ALREADY come to light that molestation MIGHT have happend. Her ” e is the evidence:
1. Jordan Root has confessed to having watched child porn for years.
2. Jordan Root has a history of having had access to children for many years, in many towns, in many different settings.
Verification for point 2, from Jordan Root’s former wife, Karen Hinkley formerly Karen Root), from this source:
http://watchkeep.blogspot.com.au/2015/05/she-speaks-village-church-protects.html
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This is a list of Jordan Root’s access to children via employment and volunteer capacities beginning his freshman year of college provided by Jordan’s former wife Karen Hinkley:
Paid:
· Daycare in Albany, NY (Prior to 2003 and then off and on until 2007)
· Daycare in Cedarville, OH (Period of time between 2004 and 2007)
· Summer Camp at First Baptist Dallas, Dallas, TX (May-August 2008)
· Dolfin Swim School, Dallas, TX (September 2008-July 2010)
· In Class Learning Differences Aid, Dallas, TX (September-December 2010)
· Practicum Counselor at Dallas Life, Dallas, TX (worked with families and children; January-August 2011)
· Private Children’s Swim Instructor, Dallas, TX (June-September 2011)
· Mental Health Technician at Timberlawn Mental Health Services, Dallas, TX (November 2011-March 2012)
· Therapist on the Child and Adolescent Unit at Timberlawn Mental Health Services, Dallas, TX (March 2012-May 2014)
· A substantial amount of paid babysitting over these years in Albany, NY, Cedarville, OH, and Dallas, TX
Unpaid:
· Informal Children’s Ministry to Refugee Children in Vickery Meadows, Dallas, TX (2008-2011)
· Lived in Santa Fe Trails Apartment Complex, Dallas, TX; spent a lot of time alone with children (2008-2012)
· Volunteered in children’s and youth ministries at various churches in Cedarville, OH and Dallas, TX (and possibly Albany, NY)
· A substantial amount of unpaid babysitting over these years in Albany, NY, Cedarville, OH, and Dallas, TX
Anyone who has seen, suspected or suffered child sex crimes by Jordan Root is urged to come forward and contact local police in order to heal and protect others. In the Dallas area, contact the Dallas police child exploitation unit at (214) 671-4211. Child Help national child abuse hotline is available 24/7: 1-800-4-A-CHILD (1-800-422-4453)
– See more at: http://watchkeep.blogspot.com.au/2015/05/she-speaks-village-church-protects.html#sthash.j7TuvCLJ.dpuf
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That is enough evidence to show that molestation MIGHT have happened!
C’mon, Village Church, the guy has spent almost all his waking energy trying to get access to kids. That is what serial child molesters do. They don’t take vacations. They don’t have weekends off. The spend all their waking hours trying to get access to children and grooming the gatekeeper-adults around those children to get them to trust them.
I don’t have to have been a fly on the wall in Jordan Root’s life so dedude from that list of his life-activities and jobs, that he has put a LOT of energy into getting access to children.
In fact, that list is enough to suggest that molestation has almost CERTAINLY happened — that Jordan Root has almost certainly molested children. In fact, it’s enough to suggest that Jordan has molested MANY children.
I do not hate Jordan Root; I have simply read a very good book about the Socially Skilled Child Molester, by Carla van Dam, PhD. And what that book taught me leads me to suggest that Jordan most likely has molested MANY children.
Village Church needs to do a 100% about-turn on the way they’ve handled Jordan and Karen.
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Karen Hinkley told Christianity Today:
“When I asked why the elders felt as though my choices about personal finances were within the scope of their authority, I was informed that ‘In a marriage separation, every aspect of your marriage is under the authority of the elders of the church’,”
From the article at Christianity Today
http://www.christiantoday.com/article/church.disciplines.wife.for.wanting.to.divorce.husband.who.admitted.paedophile.leanings/54480.htm
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May I suggest one more translation?
RB: “I think it might be best to hold off communicating the possibility of sexual molestation to families since it is just, currently, a possibility. I say that primarily because even the mention of a potential offense like this could send parents into a panic that might be unwarranted. Even the potential of that could be traumatizing to families.”
Translation: And we do not need a bunch of our TVC families in a panic, complaining about how we are handling Jordan’s “accountability” here at TVC. We have not even told them the details yet about the child pornography sins, so no way will we be suggesting they look for signs of past chlld abuse! Imagine how that would put a stigma on the elders of TVC! We might lose their respect! We might have more members leave the church, rebelling against our fine and wise leadership! We can’t be putting that temptation in front of the “little people”.
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I’ve got a version too!
“I think it might be best This is an order, not a suggestion to hold off communicating the possibility of sexual molestation to families since it is just, currently, a possibility. His confession to you in no way equals his confession to us. What he says to US is what matters I say that primarily because even the mention of a potential offense like this could send parents into a panic that might be unwarranted. Even the potential of that could be traumatizing to families.” Clearly you are not thinking of anyone but yourself. You have obviously forgotten there are others — entire families even! — who might potentially be negatively impacted by your overzealous haste to condemn this man before WE have decided that is warranted, which I will remind you is our task, not yours. We’ll do the thinking and commanding around here. You do the obeying. You are being emotional and acting in an unloving and unthoughtful way toward, well, everyone. I am being very kind and gentle in my condescension toward you because, well, you are below me. Pat pat. Now do cooperate before you force me to do something worse to you than is already being planned.
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