122. CHARLES BUKOWSKI: Roll the dice
Even though I mentioned in my first Charles Bukowski adaptation that his material is rarely motivational or joyful, he does have some very uplifting poems – and Roll the Dice is among the best. Listen here to a great reading of the poem by Tom O’Bedlam. Another one of Bukowski’s most triumphant pieces is The Laughing Heart (submitted by many of you), which you can hear in this great video read by Tom Waits.
As you can tell, I’m a big Game of Thrones fan (the TV show, I have’t read the novels). I’m not normally a huge fantasy fanboy but I got caught up in the hype (as did the whole world it seems) and have been thoroughly enjoying the series. The idea for this comic came to me a few weeks ago, when I was still reeling from the events of the latest season.
– Thanks to Deep, Kushman and Brendan for submitting the poem.
– RELATED COMICS: Air and light and time and space, Ask yourself, Nature loves courage.
Discussion (367) ¬
Haha! I love the adaptation, so awesome! Brb going to learn how to be a transformer.
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While you’re at it, check this great rendition of the quote, from the movie “Factotum”, an adaptation of the novel of the same name by Bukowski.
Warning: NSFW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx5uFG28BFE
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So perfect at this moment.
Epic in many ways
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Gav you are an artist… I admire your work a lot… I have been following your blog from last year… and I must say it feels great.
If these are ‘Words of Wisdom’ , You bring emotion to it, you give it life !
I was reading the cartoon and thinking about this song
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the last panel is just epic
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Thank you for bringing even more power to the best written in all times !!!! Great Job… ALWAYS
Inspiring in mysterious ways. Was thinking in the way to the office to start a movement exactly based on this principle
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Your comic got into me, Gav.
Like you have to risk almost everything just to do and get what you truly desire in life. Very inspiring!
Cheers!
I actually find this offensive. What is so heroic about alienating your poor girlfriend to pursue a Don Quixote fantasy? Read the following blog post for a more articulate discussion on why this trope makes me queasy.
http://www.anamardoll.com/2013/04/tropes-my-wife-left-me.html
Princey – I totally agree! I read the whole thing thinking “This dude is such a dick!”
Whose to say there isn’t a sword-fighter woman in the same thing in mind? Let all cosplay who would cosplay! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWXXFT2RccY
*Who’s*
Yeah, I agree with this.
Usually I love everything in Zenpencils, but this comic in particular is just not… good. At first I thought the guy will go to a comic-con or something, and doing a beautiful cosplay, but, not, this.
I have to disagree with you here. Looking at the actual context of the comic, the character is not being cast in a heroic, or even positive, light. The man has obviously lost touch with reality, being depicted with a crazed expression in several panels. I may be incorrectly interpreting his presentation, but it appears that Gavin has paired up a serious message with imagery of the absurd in order to get the reader thinking.
There is nothing in Gavin’s previous work that suggests he would approve of someone neglecting their loved-ones in order to do something as absurd as turning themselves into Ned Stark. I understand the trope you mentioned was used to reinforce the positive image of a character, you would quite reasonably be offended. I just don’t agree that this is what Gavin has done here.
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I agree with Princey. It only shows that the hero in the comic is stupid. Can anyone imagine any decent purpose for his madness. If it is about trying to make a change or an invention which noone else is able to appreciate, it is understandable. Maybe that was the intention of the quote also. Not some useless fantasy.
I completely agree Princey!
Whew, thank god I’m not the only one who was a little unnerved by this. Don’t get me wrong–the artwork, as always, is sublime! The quote is EPIC as well. But it sad to see that our hero (or anti-hero, whichever way you’d like to look at it) neglect his girlfriend (or wife), causing her considerable pain, in order to physically ‘become’ Ned Stark. I mean, if this is a reference to Ned Stark’s character, characterized by loyalty, intelligence, power, humility and justice, and the comic is a metaphorically talking about engendering these qualities within oneself, then that’s a different story. But, it doesn’t seem like that.
I think Bukowski’s talking about persistence and dedication to a goal… but I fail to see this manifest in the storyline itself. Maybe I’ve completely lost the plot, but I see a hero who’s letting his infatuation run toxic, destroying his relationship to whom he is dear, and slowly descending into madness.
Clearly the man is in the wrong here… I think that ‘trope’ is not meant to cast negative light on women, just to demonstrate the character’s dedication, past the point of reason. It is obvious in these cases that the wife is not wrong to leave him, so why is there a problem?
Honestly I didn’t love this comic either- there’s a difference between following dreams and following fantasies to the literal point of insanity (dragon) but the trope is, I think, not negative to the involved women.
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Well, the author is not the narrator, neither are the protagonist, all the same for the illustrator.
Still, my first reaction (to the story) is quite near to yours. And I guess it’s intended. Yep, Calibur mentions insanity ~ dragon.
For now, I’ll take it as an extreme example, which may be rather warning.
(Btw, I assume Bukowsky did not play D&D 😉
I followed that link, Princey…”yawn”.
Why is it that no matter what the subject of the comic on ZP it always has some idiot whining about gender equality?
This comic, especially, has nothing to do with gender and yet you and your ilk choose to view it as such. I pity you – your world must be so small.
Yeah, I love Gavin’s work but this comic isn’t as good. Throw away all your family and friends to live out a delusional fantasy? I felt the last panel with the dragon was just a hallucination of a now insane man. Gavin if you wanted to do this right, you should have placed it in a fantasy world of a lowly farmer or something becoming a great warrior then it would work. I get your message but as someone who has a lost a family member to mental illness, it rubs me the wrong.
Really I’m sorry that I disagree with you as I look forward every week to your comics so I won’t give up on you yet, just please try to think thigs through better next week.
Apologies for the typos, I typed too fast.
Gav probably expected this kind of reception, but he didn’t care about the criticism or the mockery. He went all the way. You, me, Gav or Bukowski may and probably will think the main character is mad and disgusting for doing such an idiotic thing, but he doesn’t care. He decided to try, so he’s going all the way.
I’m glad so many others were unnerved by this. But I don’t blame the comic, I blame the quote. The quote itself said you might lose your family for something, but honestly there are few things worth losing your family over. So the quote itself, to me, is where the flaw lies.
I think EVERYONE here has missed this point: THIS IS NOT REALITY
how does anyone know that the dragon in the final was a hallucination how do you know it wasn’t really a dragon.
This is art; an artist is able to defy the laws of existence to show us true emotions and ideas
This is not meant to show the descent into madness of some crazy man. It is meant to show how through sheer force of will this man made his dream a reality. He went all the way. He believed so hard he actually became what nobody thought he could be.
If you don’t understand that I suggest you read the comic again.
didn’t you understad that ?
this could mean losing girlfriend, wives, relatives, and maybe YOUR MIND
I agree that the story in the images didn’t seem to fit the message in the quote. I find this strip inspiring, but wasn’t sure what this one was supposed to inspire me toward.
Honestly, I suspect that Gav is just really digging Game of Thrones right now and wanted to draw out a fantastical “what if” scenario here. It only struck an off note because of the serious tone of the quote.
Well, I guess the Left will never had a revolution, being that they could lose friends and family. I guess we should all know our place.
Damn my grammar’s bad today.
That.
There is nothing heroic about getting caught-up in a fad like Game of Thrones.
Zealously taking it to some extreme level doesn’t change the fact that it’s still nothing more than trying to live out someone else’s vision.
I actually agree that the comic portrays more someone that looses is common sense and grasp on reality than someone pursuing their dream.
However, saying you are ‘offended’ by this is plain stupid. Stop being an idiot. You cannot be offended by a cartoon that was not even drawn for you.
I agree. It’s beautifully drawn and moving but unrealistic, exaggerated. These kind of heroes, today, are only metaphors of the kind of the courage (not recklessness) that is really needed. This man is living in an absurdly self-made world. Everyone does a little bit but this is too far. I imagined the man would become a master of historical swordfighting performances, an action movie actor, etc. Not a cloudcuckoolander.
This is so damn good. Hearing him read the poem is great also.
This. This right here hits home. I’ve done something like this. I left the only life I’d ever known to do something very similar to this adaptation. I’m still on the journey of “going all the way”, but I’ll get there. I know I will. I’ve seen what’s waiting for me at the end of this journey, and I know that all the sacrifices I’ve made, and will make, will be worth the reward in the end. Thanks again for a great comic.
Vyse Dyne,
it’s inspiring to hear that… I wish for you to keep going till you find the “end of your journey”. And when you do, I’m half sure you’ll realise it wasn’t an end after all, and see another journey begin there; and do go all the way on that too!
Would you like to share your dream with us, what journey you’re on?
Good luck :-)!
After all, Bukowski is not someone to ask advice to if you want good sense.
I’ve been reading the comics while listening to the voice of Bukowski. Goose bumps!
If you are going to try,go all the way. This would be a new motivational word collection for me,it is yet another beautiful comic,thumbs up.
I just played the video of him reading it and I have to say, that’s not him.
Your comics are amazing! I’m in love with both the art and the motivational quotes, so these are a profound source of strength at times ..
What’s the chance this one (#122) will be made into a poster? It’s my favourite so far – speaks to me in volumes!
The purpose of this quote is to motivate people to go all the way. That is a good thing. But to say that going all the way means to alienate your loved ones is wrong. That is a personal thing and depends on each individual’s situation. If the loved one is understanding they’d help you in this great pursuit of your life. And if they don’t it really depends on you whether you want to pursue some dream without caring about losing your loved ones or whether you want to make your loved ones understand why it is important to you. Some people might even choose to let go of their dream and save their love. That is highly respectable i think.
That was my problem with this quote but as far as this comic goes, I think you could have taken the quote a little more seriously. This person who goes crazy over game of thrones doesn’t inspire me at all. Maybe you could have shown a better or more worthwhile dream. Gandhi and Mandela both went all the way and their families suffered because of that. Maybe something like that would have been a better showcase for this quote.
Having said that, I am starting to wonder who decides which dreams are good and which are crazy. This character’s dream wasn’t my dream, it wasn’t a constructive dream, he didn’t make the world a better place but who am I to say that his dream was wrong? Is there a limit? On one hand I want to feel good for the guy coz he didn’t give up on his dream and finally achieved it (even if achieving it meant going insane) but on the other hand wouldn’t it be better if such dreams that might make us crazy be crushed early on before they can harm us?
But again, who’s to decide?
Well said, Aditya.
Aditya, this will make no sense if not, but are you by any chance a member of Ananda Marga?
Well said Aditya. Loves this places as it give us the opportunity to read all kinds of people.
I wish you’d chosen either a different quote or a different storyline. “Follow your obsession even if it hurts people who care about you and ruins your life” is not a message I can enjoy — I’ve seen too many people do it. Then I’ve seen the people they hurt called on to pick up the mess. I don’t call them heroic or noble; I call them selfish.
My wife being a big fan of Bukowski I know a thing or two about his life and I have to say that I disagree with his assertion that one should abandon one’s family, friends, and (if you like it) career in order to pursue a dream. (I say all this even though I think people should, over all, follow their passions)
Like most successful people, Bukowski seems to make the mistake that one must make the same or similar decisions to ones he made in order to achieve his level of success (or at least his level of self satisfaction in his work). This, however, is a false choice and is easily proven by looking at the myriad of authors, artists, dancers, scientists, doctors, etc who have all achieved great things without sacrificing their ties to society.
Further, as a writer, Bukowski would never have material to work with without human relationships to build (and burn, in his case). If he were to follow his own advice in this quote he would have all the time in the world to work, but nothing to say.
I have a wife, and my ultimate commitment is to her. I made vows to her for my complete and unconditional love for the rest of my life. *That* is my adventure where there is no “try”, and IMHO it takes more strength and courage to push 100% effort there than to abandon everyone and my responsibilities to go indulge selfish fantasies.
Scrap this quote and use Yoda’s instead: “Do or Do Not; there is no ‘try’ “.
He already made a comic of that quote a while back.
I didn’t see any way to edit my post afterwards, so an addition:
I love the site and Gav’s work, and totally agree with the general “overcome all obstacles” theme. I just think this particular implementation of that idea is flawed.
At first, I found this combination of art and quote a tad uncomfortable. But on reflection, the art doesn’t side with the Ned Stark wannabe – if you remember what ultimately happened to that character, it almost appears to be mocking him. Though that interpretation casts the quote in a whole new light, come to think of it…
The comic itself isn’t very inspirational-looking. Looks more like a Don Quixote scenario.
Great idea…listen to some alcoholic writer.
Wash your filthy mouth!
If you give up everything for one thing, then odds are that all you’ve acquired is nothing. Don’t get me wrong, I generally like the stuff you put up here and the interpretations you provide are often quite moving, but I absolutely loathe this quote. Turn your back on friends and family for some personal obsession? Doesn’t matter if it’s a hobby, a career or some kind of quest, any man that would do that deserves all the nothing he’ll end up with.
Big fan. I personally loved it.
I think a lot of people are being too harsh on it though. Considering that the last panel has a live fire-breathing dragon, judging the strip so literally is a bit foolish.
Go after what you mant, make the effort, overcome the obstacles, and be ready for sacrifices.
Will I completely turn my back on my loved ones? Probably not. But I will certainly never use them as excuses for mediocrity.
w-WHAT
What the heck did I just read? That it’s okay to abandon your job and wife to become Ned Stark so you can go and fight imaginary monsters? This is a very strange and poor way to illustrate the quote, I’m sorry to say. I’d also like to say that like most of your comics, it’s poor advice that can only apply to a small minority of privileged people, but in this case it’s just nonsensical.
From an artistic standpoint, you’re doing really well, but metaphorically, you’re doing bafflingly.
I’ve been reading the comments, and I really don’t think that people are being fair about this comic. Finding inspiration in someone, even a fictional character, and striving to be more like them and sticking to that conviction, despite the naysayers-is that so wrong? I’ve read of people who reached goals, usually to do with physical ability such as fitness, by not listening to people who said they were crazy and going for it anyway.
The message I got from this comic, and the quote, is this: what is more important, improving yourself and following your dreams, or putting aside things you want to do because others are unhappy with it? Often a difficult choice to make, and I think many people choose the latter and come out the worse for it.
(Although, I do agree with some commentors, there are probably more worthwhile goals than trying to become Ned Stark.)
*by not listening to people who said they were crazy and striving to follow in an idol’s footsteps.
I am reminded of this one – https://zenpencils.com/comic/97-charles-bukowski-air-and-light-and-time-and-space/
And here are my thoughts:
It’s a sort of opposite, as in, you give it all up just the same, but actually follow through the end, until madness and obsession becomes not your prime concern but nature itself. They are both de-motivational, as you let go all responsibility, in this case, for an excuse to find comfort in a life you know it’s leaving you unhappy and\or incomplete.
Now that I think of it, it also reminds me of “Mazes and Monsters” (1982) ahah!
I can’t help but think a lot of these reactions are the result of the visualization of the quote making many people deeply uncomfortable, pushing some buttons most people never want pushed. And I hate to sound like this, but it may be a good thing.
My view is those who are uncomfortable are reading the comic far too literally. The comparison to Don Quixote as a pejorative is flawed. Don Quixote, the character, is intended to be admired not because he was crazy and believed windmills were giants. But as a metaphor for the willpower to overcome mundane challenges and see possibilities no matter how incomprehensible they were to anyone else.
Likewise, this comic seems custom made to make people uncomfortable with an image that they’d normally consider madness. Because to people who can’t see possibility, a person laboring for a greater idea is mad and even offensive. We can be very angry when someone challenges are notions of what is conventional, acceptable, and proper. About what people should be doing with their lives.
In my humble opinion, the people that feel uncomfortable about this illustration, are the ones that follow all of the instructions given by the system i.e. Use Facebook (feed your narcissistic tendencies), watch TV, comply with the system, BE THE PERSON THE SYSTEM TELLS YOU TO BE.
The moment that someone decides to break the chains and follow his/her own path, they feel uncomfortable he/she is not complying and their ego feels attacked for not making the same choices as the SHEEPLE.
The EGO is the most insecure beast there is and you have allowed it to run your life thus; your need to judge others when they aren’t like you!
When it comes to a loved one, if the person truly loves you, she will support you and let you pursue your dreams, so no need to take it literally and turn it into a soap-opera like we have been socially engineered to do.
In summary, mind your own business, go back to watch FOX News and post trivial comments on Facebook that no one cares about, fool yourself believing you have hundreds of friends and let those that dare to dream be and follow their passions.
Now watch the ego-drive insecure comments, for the truth hurst…3, 2, 1…
I’ll keep it short and sweet:
There’s a difference between breaking the mold and following your dreams, and following a destructive obsession that leads you to hurt people and ultimately go insane.
And that difference is? read from where? said by who? passed as a law?
somewhere, someone, sometime, will say: “what you are ding is wrong, insane, etc” about anything you may be doing.
Didn’t most heroes died or went insane or abandoned someone (Ulises comes to mind real quick).
Hi Gav,
I’m a super fan of yours. I live in Mexico, and recently bought one of your posters, but unfortunately it hasn’t arrive yet, and it’s been already 3 weeks =( … do you have any idea how long it takes the shipping to Mexico?
Thank you! and my best wishes to you!
Hey Diana, yes they can take awhile for international orders. Up to a month. Give it a couple of weeks and let me know if you still haven’t got it. Thanks.
Thanks!
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I don’t think that this is an inspirational poem. It seems like the description of an addiction, the feeling, repeatedly, with the insistance and unlimited.
There are times when I feel language somehow falls short to describe feelings… I think this is one of them, for me.
Sorry is this goes too long but I have been there.
I always wanted to join the Air force. I’m a child of the cold war, growing up watching G.I. Joe, and Robotech, much of a loner, always at odd with my parents. Always looking at a life that for me was some point between axis X and Y and I was living in the Z. However I love my parents and respect them and followed their advice of studying an Engineering career.
However, in my last year, six months short of ending my studies, with very good grades, I LEFT. I told my parents that I have left my career, I have presented and approved my entry exams to the army and that I was going away.
I left behind my girlfriend who studied with me. My friends and family since I was going to another city. My living status since I didn’t had enough money saved to support myself if things went wrong. I went all the way.
Parents said I was crazy (the least). Friends said I would fail and return but will be there for me. Girlfriend cried.
Does someone thinks for one second I didn’t suffer? Maybe the man in the comic suffered too and, just like me, never show it. Maybe he showed it and is not in the panel.
I faced my dragon. I went to the army aviation. I flew and completed missions in deserts and cold places and saw things very few people have seen and saw things no one should see. I suffered and was happy and met friends and good people and horrible people. I rode that dragon.
And I met my wife. And a new dragon appeared. Marriage was just a dragon to me as was my dream of being a military airmen. Something wild and dangerous that I had never actually seen and could possibly cost me everything, yet once again, I went all the way. And I left the army because it was about to cost me my marriage. and once again I suffered and once again I didn’t show it.
Sorry if I went too long.
I do not regret what I did . I do not regret having left the army neither. I loved the journey. I didn’t hear the naysayers. The ones who said I was crazy. The ones who said I was making people suffer. I did what it was needed to be done. Yes, people suffered, yes I made them suffer, yes I was selfish. But people suffer and recover. And we will always make people suffer, sometimes without trying nor intending. It was the price. I suffered too. Don’t be too harsh on others. Maybe they are suffering too.
Thanks o Gavin for the space to think, discuss and enjoy. Love your work man. Keep’em coming.
This is beautiful.
I think this comic is possibly more of a metaphor than people are taking it for? I’d love to somehow end up in a fantasy world because this one sucks, though, so….
I wish I cared about something that much. Alas, I do not.
Right on the spot. This is art, last time I heard it wasn’t meant to be taken literally.
I like to think that this comic shows the story of how a gigantic dragon was terrorising a city, but due to it’s inherently mythical nature, modern technology could not harm it. Then one night a man watches Game of Thrones and realises the only way to defeat the dragon is through equally fantastical methods. So he starts training, while everyone thinks he is mad.
His wife is afraid he will be killed by the dragon and she begs him to stop, but he continues on with his mission to defeat the dragon. She can’t live with it anymore, so she leaves. He continues to train even though the people he encounters think he is insane. He eventually decides it is time to face the dragon, so he buys the last equipment he needs, say’s good-bye to the city and rides out to face the beast.
But that’s just my opinion 😀
Hi Gavin. I don’t know what it is, but today as I was browsing through your comics, I found myself welling up with tears, then finally crying my eyes out like I haven’t done in years. I’m not in a particularly unhappy place, or anything, and I can’t place my finger on where this catharsis came from. Anyway, thank you- your work is quite beautiful.
Thanks Andrew, a good cry can work wonders.
Hey! I stumbled upon your work when I was searching for inspirational stories and cartoons that I am supposed to send to the folks in my team on every Monday so they can survive the week at work.(my manager makes me do it) and I was impressed. After that day I spent quite a time on your site..I was bored at work and I needed to experience something fresh. Thanks for providing. You are one inspiration yourself man! Cheers!
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Mmmm, this is one of the only comics you have made that I have a slight problem with. It seems to be encouraging Chuunibyou syndrom (middle School 2nd Year Syndrome) Basically, it means you like to play “pretend” in your older years. Its not something to encourage really. But I’m probably wrong, perhaps it was just the subject matter (GOT you chose) it just seems like the man is obsessed with playing GOT make believe.
Man you’re just great! I love your comics so much 🙂 If i could afford it, i would put your prints all over my room 🙂 Keep the great work! You even don’t know how much you motivate me with your work 🙂
Thanks for accepting my recommendation Gav…!! I know you get a lot of requests. I loved your illustration though I wouldn’t have expected to associate Game of Thrones with it. The Game of thrones allegory is brilliant. I think it gets to the core point of the poem which is throw yourself into some purpose regardless of how absurd it is. Then the nights will flame with fire 🙂
By the way, I also loved the recent oatmeal comic – http://theoatmeal.com/comics/running . Being a distance runner myself, I completely associate. I think it has some very good material.
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Gav,
This is so intense, I absolutely love it.
This gave me a feeling I haven’t felt for a while.
Thank you for taking your time, effort, and having the guts to show 50,000 people something that can stir those feelings.
It’s dangerous, exciting, selfless and selfish all in one. It’s sort of like realising all your potential, ignoring your limits and slowly sinking into your deepest darkest fantasy. It could be for good, or for bad.
I love it.
P.S. Or maybe you’re really telling me to leave my wife…? HAHA!!
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best ZP comic of all time. Actually I begun watching all of them when I saw this one, but still none could beat raw power of this one. Work, live, enjoy life and everything you do, despite reejction and mockery. This is the only good fight there is.
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I enjoyed the comic, but this sounds like terrible advice.
I have been checking out a few of your stories and i can state pretty good stuff. I will definitely bookmark your blog
I was going to complain about how this guy is a bit nuts.
But then I looked into his eyes and saw myself.
I spent the last three years writing a story that no one else has read yet.
Maybe we’re all a little crazy sometimes.
On the other hand, I take the whole “go big or go home” thing with a grain of salt.
Life inherently involves compromises.
I was going to complain about how this guy is a bit nuts.
But then I looked into his eyes and saw myself.
I spent 10-20 hours/week for the last three years writing a story that no one I know even likes. I don’t stop because I believe in it.
Maybe we’re all a little crazy sometimes.
The message seems a bit extreme, but maybe it’s just how I am reading it.
That being said, this comic is still awesome 🙂
You go V MISSIRIAN! You go and be awesome now!
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All the way. Love it! I got chills down my back.
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Wow, this is fucking stupid.
This, is a masterpiece… Thank you.
Haven’t the publisher of Charles Bukowoski asked to remove this as well.
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I discovered this poem through this page, and it struck me kind of hard. I’ve never really gotten into Bukowski, but if the rest of his poetry can affect me like this…I think I might have to.
I also love the subject matter.
I loved the poem itself, but the comic came as a shock to me. You’re saying that if I want to, I can leave my wife and become my favorite television show character? I don’t necessarily think that’s what this is saying. Otherwise, a great post.
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The comic itself isn’t very inspirational-looking
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